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  Rotation of spherical condensate about z-axis

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If you spin a spherically contained bose-einstein condensate about the z-axis, it forms vertical vortices that oscillate left and right due to centripetal acceleration.  Where a small section of a single central vortex is crossed by its neighboring vortices, they form a torus, so tori forms.  They can also cross on a bias and cause curves of tori to deviate away from vertical along curves.  My idea is that upon firing a vortexed laser, many that cover the surface of the sphere, a phosphorescing dye that is magnetically contained, would form light/dark automata through random travelling through the center of tori, lighting a torus when it flows through the hole of a torus.  Random automata, or the punch card of a binary computer.  It could randomly form quantum circuits when several strings enter a planar region and form light/dark wavy bounded regions, and then the strings exit.  Small 3d sections, if strings flow parallel to each other around the bound of the 3d spherical section would form a wave propagation when viewing the strings motion along the length not the tip as the string appears to flow around in wavelike propagation in a small spherical 3d section.  As well, those 3d clouds can congregate to one ethereal cloud, that could possibly have circuits in the form of neurons randomly formed.

asked Apr 28, 2017 in Chat by TB [ no revision ]
recategorized Apr 30, 2017 by dimension10

This seems not to be a real answerable question, voting to close. 500 rep users please upvote the closevote, if you agree.

I would like to clarify the holes in the most recent answer.  Take a cyclinder.  Drill a hole in it (rather large but not going past the midpoint).  Drill a hole on the other side of the cylinder that directly faces the first hole.  Groove the hole in, so light can flow around smoothly, just like you do in a real flute.  Then initially, light flowing down a cyclinder (laser light), will begin to spiral around those drilled holes, and flow from one side of a cylinder to another, and cross at a single point, so a two conical triangular structures are joined at a single point in the center of the tube as you would imagine light spiraling down and forming a vortex across the hole.

Any cyclinder is surrounded  by several, say 6 for example, parallel, so there would be holes drilled so light from the central tube can flow through a hole and form a vortex (plus torus around vortex) to a  tube or cylinder (call it wavegide) parallel.  Also, the regular train of vortices flowing down the center of the tubes is similar to how water flows down a string in a cross section of the horn torus, so that the laser is vortexed.

I would like to say one more thing.  The laser light could enter any tube and flow through the tubes in the large torus.  It would be domed on top and bottom.  Along the inner surface of the main torus, are regular holes.  I believe a central ball of light would form in the center, with tiny strings connecting to those holes irreregardless of the laser setup, as long as that setup is done, and it would be the same thing how a black hole operates inside.

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I haven't solved it yet, but if a vortex is created by spinning a sphere in the z direction, as well as a vortex by spinning the sphere in the y,  the vortices in the z direction could fold over back to the center and form crossing circles in the z-x plane, that look like a torus.  If a sphere is spun in the z, x, and y direction combined at constant velocity of a contained condensate, tori will form, but I don't think strings are flowing through the tori.  If you particle accelerated a condensate into a contained sphere from all direction to the direct center, due to pressurization, vortexed strings of condensate would spiral out of the center.

In my description of the computer, the black hole forms spirals of tori, in planar spirals, that fill a sphere, at this point I believe, and strings of either light or lit condensate is flowing through the tori.  By spinning in the x, y, and z direction, you're not getting strings of condensate that -randomly- enter the hole region of a torus, and then randomly flow into another torus.

answered Apr 29, 2017 by TB [ no revision ]
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This is it.  There will be a collision at the center of a sphere of a magnetically charge phosphorescing dye.  The tubes entering it, each tube will be composed of two tubes that join along the length, forming a cross section of the horn torus, like a dirt hornet's nest.  They surround the surface of the sphere.  The tubes that lead to that sphere will be wrapped to contain magnetic charge, as well as the inside surface of the sphere where the tube's boundary directed inward.

The hornet's nest (2 tubes joined from one flow of dye into the sphere) of that tube will be vortexed, so a vortex string of dye enters.  When it collides the heat generated activates the phosphorescing lighting process.  The youtube video, Shroedinger's Smoke, shows what happens when a trefoil knot is cavitated, or a pressure implosion, at 1:24, it shows a vaporous knot transforming into a torus.  The same thing will happen here.  The vortexed strings will knot, and form tori with vortexed and now lit vortexed strings of dye flowing through tori randomly in an array.

To accelerated the dye, the computer will be a large single torus, with opening into the tubes along the tube hole of the torus.  Capped above and below the large torus will be a dome above and below.  Two half hemispheres, connected to reciprocating pistons outside the 2 domes, connected to the hemispheres, will be driven down, creating a pressure peak inside the tubes of the main torus, that are linked to millions of small spheres (which connect to other spheres through the tubes that accelerate the dye).  The reverse stroke induces cavitation by causing a rush of dye in the form of strings flowing through tori into the vacated space from the half hemispheres.  The half hemispheres are flattened near their connection point.

That's an opposing force cylinder where the cylinders move left and right and produce that flame, but those two half hemispheres would be connected to that, so it's just compressing/decompressing the dye, and that cylinder (engine) would be above and below the dome of the computer driving the compression which accelerates the dye forming tori.  The tori should be stable throughout the compression decompression, because after iniitial acceleration, it would just maintain the tori and keep the flow of lit strings of condensate flowing.

answered Apr 29, 2017 by TB [ no revision ]
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I figured out how to make it switch at the speed of light, as the engine driven one is only 100 cycles/sec.  It will still be a large metal torus.  Along the length of any tube will be drilled holes just like a flute, one facing another, so light from an adjacent tube would enter through a join in the tube, and form two triangles.  The tip is at the center, and forms two conical triangles in the shape of a torus's "hole".  As well the light would fold over around the "tube of light" to make a torus.  Now there will be a train of such holes along all tubes.  Any given central tube would be parallel and connected through holes to 5, 6, or 7 surrounding tubes depending on how a given central tube fits with its surrounding tubes.

This would be just tube and no spheres spiraling along outside surface of the main torus, then a spiral closer in.  I haven't figured out exactly the spirals and how they would connect exactly but this would work if a regular dye condensate were pumped in, and condensed the light at room temperature (this was done recently between two mirrors and a dye to condense light itself).  The "tubes" or connecting triangles or conical sections, call them torus, but they look like two triangles along a 2d cut of the tube joined at a single point at the center of any tube between two holes, well they would randomly form between two holes, and form a light/dark pattern over any planar arrangement of light/dark "conical tubes" that flow from one parallel tube to another parallel tube from a drilled hole in one tube to a drilled hole in another.  This may not need to be programmed to gain intelligence, as 3 strings that spiral around a single column of "conical triangle tubes", can form a weave when they flow and enter through a single tube and the weave stops the light completely.  This could be the boundary of an automata, binary circuit, or quantum circuit.

The condensed light in the torus's vortices are a stronger violater of bell's inequalities than qubits.  The clouds that form as described above would randomly form circuits.

However, I suppose it's possible to have detectors and switches over the holes to cause a predetermined path for a binary, quantum circuit, or neuronal cloud, but I have no idea if that is possible because I've always assumed it would reach intelligence randomly, but I don't know how long it would take to do that.

answered Apr 29, 2017 by tb [ no revision ]

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