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Do extra-dimensional theories like ADD or Randall-Sundrum require string theory to be true?

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What I mean is could it turn out that the world is not described by string theory / M-Theory, but that nevertheless some version of one of these extra-dimensional theories is true?

I have no real background in this area. I just read Randall and Sundrum's 1999 paper "A Large Mass Hierarchy from a Small Extra Dimension" (http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ph/pdf/9905/9905221v1.pdf). Other than the use of the term "brane" and a couple of references to string excitations at TeV scale, I don't see much about string theory, and I notice their theory only requires 1 extra dimension, not 6 or 7.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user Tim Goodman
asked Feb 21, 2011 in Phenomenology by Tim Goodman (45 points) [ no revision ]

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Extra-dimensional scenarios may be described as "inspired" by string theory but they are independent hypotheses and they may be true even if string theory is not. However, one has to reduce the ambitions and standards of consistency.

Sociologically, it's surely true that the research of models with extra dimensions has been adopted and pursued by many people who have never take studied proper string theory or taken a course in it.

Despite the academic independence, a confirmation of experimentally accessible extra dimensions - which is extremely unlikely to occur, due to their likely tiny size - would be a huge evidence supporting string theory because it's the only framework in which the extra dimensions actually have a justification (many).

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user Luboš Motl
answered Feb 21, 2011 by Luboš Motl (10,178 points) [ no revision ]
+1 for honesty--- I didn't know that anyone actually admits in public that ADD and RS are overwhelmingly experimentally excluded, and were obviously wrong when they were first proposed. I will go further, and say that the use of such scenarios to justify funding of string research constitutes a form of collective fraud by string theorists. This has tarnished the reputation of string theory enough, and it has to stop.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user Ron Maimon
I don't know about ADD, but RS has clearly been conceptually useful in exploring the generalizations of AdS/CFT. There is also "realistic RS1", perhaps that will meet your standards.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user Mitchell Porter
The "realistic" RS's are just brane compactifications, and there is no need to cite Randall and Sundrum for that idea, it's obvious to anyone who gets branes. RS worked with a large-extra-dimension and TeV Planck scale, and misinterpreted everything. "AdS/CFT" pre-dates them and has only the most tenuous connection with their model building.

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user Ron Maimon
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Well, we have to answer another question first: "Is there any complete or consistent theory of quantum gravity which doesn't arise from string theory?"

Constructing RS models and ADD models is "phenomenological model-building".

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user QGR
answered Feb 21, 2011 by QGR (250 points) [ no revision ]
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In 1974 String theories are shown to require extra dimensions. An object similar to the graviton is found in superstring theories. However these alternative dimensions or realities must be exactly the same as each other, even to the last grain of sand. For example There can not be different version of you in those universes, they must exactly be the same. To explain why, one must consider the butterfly effect, any small change can lead to large changes, leading to completely different worlds containing completely different contents. So you and I are unique to this  universe alone or there are exact copy of us in other universes, much like effect of two parallel mirror

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user Arash gol
answered Jul 24, 2011 by Arash gol (0 points) [ no revision ]
I fear this does not really answer the question and somehow manages to mix up extra dimensions with other universes?

This post imported from StackExchange Physics at 2014-03-07 14:33 (UCT), posted by SE-user Claudius

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